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Kaiser Associates - are they (still) as bad as the threads here suggest?

 
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NDT
18.04.7 00:00
 
Does anyone on here actually work at Kaiser, and if, so please could they give a view?cheers!
 
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oi
18.04.7 00:00
 
my lord almighty. i can not stress enough how FAR you need to stay from this firm. I mean you need to stay FAR FAR FAR FAR away. Rather go work as a prison attendant
 
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Michael
18.04.7 00:00
 
The impression i got from dealing with their HR department (if it was their HR department/they have one at all) was not great.Care to elaborate oi?
 
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Ty rite
18.04.7 00:00
 
Are they still around? They closed their office (at least in London) and shut down the website not long ago. If they've been bought then things might be different now.
 
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Kaiser
18.04.7 00:00
 
I am currently employed by Kaiser and would be happy to answer any questions you have. Please contact me on kaiserassociates2007@yahoo.co.ukTy rite - not sure where you heard that Kaiser had closed. We are still here, and are fully booked out with work. Our web site is being re-designed.
 
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NDT
18.04.7 00:00
 
cheers oi, for comedy value alone that response rocks!Why so bad? (apart from the poor recruitment experience that other people have reported)
 
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ex-Kaiser
19.04.7 00:00
 
I worked in Kaiser for 3 years (both in the US and London) as a Senior Manager. I have a MBA from a top school in the US and had previously worked for Booz Allen in NY.I simply can not fathom some of the negative comments about Kaiser. To me they sound like people that interviewed, did not get in and are angry because of that.Granted, Kaiser DOES NOT do your typical internal strategy work as a McK or Booz might do. But the work ("outside in" as its called) can be pretty strategic and most of the clients are really Fortune 500 firms.
 
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Chiz
20.04.7 00:00
 
Question for Kaiser / ex-Kaiser:I see from the adverts that one of the job requirements is to be "A native foreign language speaker (preference for French, German, Russian, Oriental languages)". Does that mean that there's no point applying if you're from UK/US/CA/AU/NZ or have been brought up there? I presume there's a reason for asking for "native" language speakers rather than just "fluent" ones.
 
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ex-Kaiser
20.04.7 00:00
 
Chiz, the main reason for asking for "native" languages is that a lot of the projects have a heavy primary research component across different countries. E.g. a project about entry strategy in EU5 means the consultants will probably make calls to people in France, Italy, Spain etc. Therefore having "native" language skills is really an asset. If "fluent" means you can really speak the language and have easily business conversations, then its OK.That said, Kaiser DOES have consultants that speak only English. So if you are a strong candidate you should probably apply anyway.
 
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Chiz
20.04.7 00:00
 
Thanks ex-Kaiser
 
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NDT
24.04.7 00:00
 
thanks, that's very helpful.
 
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Snoopy
24.04.7 00:00
 
When i went to Kaiser for an interview, their walls weren't painted. their walls werent painted! ( ie. there were blotches of about 3 meters on every wall were stuff was falling off). I still cant believe it. Oh and the coffee was cold and i had to poure it myself. Ill quickly compare this to 3i - where i was offered DATES and the receptionist spoke mandarin. You decide.
 
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Steve Aldrin
25.04.7 00:00
 
I am writing this answer because I take issue with some of Kaiser's recommendations. The points I plan to make in this letter will sound tediously familiar to everyone who wants to treat the disease, not the symptoms. Nevertheless, it pompously claims that it is a martyr for freedom and a victim of larrikinism. That sort of nonsense impresses many people, unfortunately. Kaiser is hooked on designer victimology but fails to notice the real victims: the entire next generation. Please note that when I finish writing this letter you might not hear from me again for a while. I simply don't have enough strength left to criticize Kaiser's tricks publically for their formalistic categories, their spurious claims of neutrality, and their blindness to the abuse of private power. Nevertheless, I can reword my point as follows. Kaiser is capable of going berserk without notice.Although Kaiser obviously hates my guts (and probably yours, as well), Kaiser has for a long time been arguing that university professors must conform their theses and conclusions to its muddleheaded prejudices if they want to publish papers and advance their careers. Had it instead been arguing that "prissy", "uneducated", and "impolitic" seem the most appropriate adjectives to describe its convictions, I might cede it its point. As it stands, the leap of faith required to bridge the logical gap in Kaiser's arguments is simply too terrifying for me to contemplate. What I do often contemplate, however, is how I normally prefer to listen than to speak. I would, however, like to remind Kaiser that there is a proper place in life for hatred. Hatred of that which is wrong is a powerful and valuable tool. But when Kaiser perverts hatred in order to depressurize the frail vessel of human hopes, it becomes clear that if it feels ridiculed by all the attention my letters are bringing it, then that's just too darn bad. Kaiser's arrogance has brought this upon itself. To say that the few of us who complain regularly about Kaiser's invectives are simply spoiling the party is two-faced nonsense and untrue to boot. The gloss that Kaiser's cheerleaders put on Kaiser's dissertations unfortunately does little to find the inner strength to celebrate knowledge and truth for the sake of knowledge and truth. Isn't it odd that reprehensible slackers, whose grumpy lifestyle will violate all the rules of decorum by the end of the decade, are immune from censure? Why is that? I apologize if this disappoints you but my intent was only to elucidate the question, not to answer it. I shall therefore state only that contrary to my personal preferences, I'm thinking about what's best for all of us. My conclusion is that what's best for all of us is for me to indicate in a rough and approximate way the two warped tendencies that I believe are the main driving force of modern racism. Did Kaiser cancel its plans to divert attention from its unprovoked aggression because it had a change of heart, or is it continuing the same battle on another front? It would appear to be the latter.Given this context, we need to return to the idea that motivated this letter: It's not the boogeyman that our children need to worry about. It's Kaiser. Not only is Kaiser more humorless and more anti-democratic than any envisaged boogeyman or bugbear, but Kaiser wants to trivialize certain events that are particularly special to us all. Personally, I don't want that. Personally, I prefer freedom. If you also prefer freedom, then you should be working with me to take steps toward creating an inclusive society free of attitudinal barriers. It may seem obvious, but Kaiser has done inestimable damage to everything around it. To cap that off, Kaiser unquestionably believes that granting it complete control over our lives is as important as breathing air. What kind of Humpty-Dumpty world is it living in? We must indubitably ask ourselves questions like that before it's too late, before Kaiser gets the opportunity to paralyze any serious or firm decision and thereby become responsible for the weak and half-hearted execution of even the most necessary measures. If Kaiser continues to pose a threat to personal autonomy and social development, I will be obliged to do something about it. And you know me: I never neglect my obligations. If we intend to defend democracy, we had best learn to recognize its primary enemy and not be afraid to stand up and call it by name. That name is Kaiser.
 
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Mike
25.04.7 00:00
 
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concerned
25.04.7 00:00
 
Wow, that was more than a little weird. Might I suggest you see someone, like a psychiatrist (not the people sitting on your shoulders, telling you what to do, whispering thoughts while your giggles turn into laughter and then into tears streaming down your cheeks as you contemplate the world hating you)....
 
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Run to the hills!
25.04.7 00:00
 
I don’t know… Two people predicting the end of democracy in the same week? It can’t be coincidence. Maybe Mourinho and our esteemed Mr Aldrin are onto something?
 
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Steve Aldrin
25.04.7 00:00
 
There are a number of things I could have chosen to write about in this post. I could have chosen to write about how the idea of basing our entire society on brazen philistinism is so far from reality, it's laughable. Or I might have chosen to write something about the way that "concerned" has never inscribed his name on the Parthenon of human excellence, either mental or moral. But, instead, I've decided to devote this entire letter to explaining how "concerned"'s ultimata, though creative, are a yawning abyss of fanaticism. Instead of focusing on why "concerned"'s scurrilous deeds really raise my blood pressure, I would like to remind people that neurotic freaks of nature are more susceptible to "concerned"'s brainwashing tactics than are any other group. Like water, their minds take the form of whatever receptacle he puts them in. They then lose all recollection that ignorance is bliss. This may be why "concerned"'s pals, who are legion, are generally all smiles. I suspect I am not alone when I say that if he succeeds in his attempt to destroy the values, methods, and goals of traditional humanistic study, it'll have to be over my dead body."concerned"'s intimations are like a Hydra. They continually acquire new heads and new strength. The only way to stunt their growth is to weaken the critical links in his nexus of abominable, self-indulgent pessimism. The only way to destroy his Hydra entirely is to provide more people with the knowledge that "concerned" cannot tolerate the world as it is. He needs to live in a world of fantasies. To be more specific, "concerned" keeps telling us that there should be publicly financed centers of classism. Are we also supposed to believe that newspapers should report only on items he agrees with? I didn't think so. We were put on this planet to be active, to struggle, and to say "no" to "concerned"'s incoherent grievances. We were not put here to delegitimize our belief systems and replace them with a counter-hegemony that seeks to burn "concerned"'s opponents at the stake, as "concerned" might assert. With this letter, I hope I have made my views crystal-clear: "concerned" has no real regard for other people's rights, privacy, or sanity.
 
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Anon
25.04.7 00:00
 
Satire is funny, but sometimes is too lonnnggggzzzzzzzzz
 
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The Senior Vice President
25.04.7 00:00
 
Steve, I'm writing this as somebody who is concerned about your situation.Reading between the lines, I'm convinced that you're a brilliant academic, and I'd go as far as to say probably an analytical powerhouse. However, you seem very frustrated about something (and obviously Kaiser is a part of this) - but I do not fully understand what it is that's bothering you.Could you summarise things in short sentences, split by bullet points, so that we can understand it more easily?Also, please don't take this the wrong way, but have you tried letting go of things that are having a negative influence in your life?I hope it all works out well for you.
 
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NDT
25.04.7 00:00
 
are we talking about the same Kaiser?surely shome mishtake?
 
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Steve Aldrin
25.04.7 00:00
 
In all my posts, I try harder than anything else to make myself clear. I try to state things as simply and unambiguously as I can. As you read these posts, you may feel confused at points. If you do, keep reading. The rationale underlying Kaiser's tracts is confusing. Fortunately, as you read the superfluity of examples about how Kaiser has been trying to make communism socially acceptable, this post will slowly begin to make some sense. Let me begin by citing a range of examples from the public sphere. For starters, if you were to try to tell its factotums that it does not hold itself answerable to any code of honor, they'd close their eyes and put their hands over their ears. They are, as the psychologists say, in denial. They don't want to hear that I am not particularly fond of Kaiser, and everyone with half a brain understands that. Up to this point, we have explored some of the motivations and circumstances that make Kaiser want to make it nearly impossible to disturb its petty gravy train. However, we must look beyond both Kaiser's motivations and history if we are truly to understand its deeds.Kaiser never tires of trying to extinguish fires with gasoline. It presumably hopes that the magic formula will work some day. In the meantime, it seems to have resolved to learn nothing from experience, which tells us that it has no great love of democracy or egalitarianism. Yes, I could add that it wants a central organization for its international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other countries -- a haven for insensate caitiffs and a university for budding callous layabouts -- but I wanted to keep my message simple and direct. I didn't want to distract you from the main thrust of my message, which is that Kaiser somehow manages to maintain a straight face when saying that it is as innocent as a newborn lamb. I am greatly grieved by this occurrence of falsehood and fantastic storytelling which is the resultant of layers of social dishevelment and disillusionment amongst the fine citizens of a once organized, motivated, and cognitively enlightened civilization. I am now in a position to define what I mean when I say that I myself must confess that Kaiser holds itself to low standards. What I mean is that harebrained drug lords like Kaiser are not born -- they are excreted. However unsavory that metaphor may be, I would really like to comment on Kaiser's attempt to associate obscurantism with separatism. There is no association. In the simplest of terms, Kaiser, who is astonishingly adroit at twisting words, has been able to convince scores of people that we should derive moral guidance from its glitzy, multi-culti, hip-hop, consumption-oriented artifices. I'll say that again, because I want it to sink in: The surest way for its coadjutors to succeed is for them to call evil good and good evil. I am not fooled by Kaiser's loquacious and eristic rhetoric. I therefore gladly accept the responsibility of notifying others that Kaiser simply spouts endless fine-sounding cliches along with unintelligible, primitive dialectic. Or, to express that sentiment without all of the emotionally charged lingo, Kaiser does not merely deploy enormous resources in a war of attrition against helpless citizens. It does so consciously, deliberately, willfully, and methodically. To understand why that affects everyone who has ever lived, you need to realize that one of the things I find quite interesting is listening to other people's takes on things. For instance, I recently overheard some folks remark that Kaiser is firmly convinced that all literature which opposes hedonism was forged by ostentatious incubi. Its belief is controverted, however, by the weight of the evidence indicating that I want to make this clear, so that those who do not understand deeper messages embedded within sarcastic irony -- and you know who I'm referring to -- can process my point. And that's what writing this sort of post is all about. It's a way to feed the starving, house the homeless, cure the sick, and still find wonder and awe in the sunrise and the moonlight.
 
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Jeeze
25.04.7 00:00
 
Steve - Do you have any friends?
 
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Herman Melville
25.04.7 00:00
 
I reckon Steve writes all these {SPAM} emails, with passages verging on sense, but not quite. Usually from Russian pornographic sites.
 
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anon
25.04.7 00:00
 
Leave Steve alone. He's done nothing wrong - it's hardly his fault that he's semantically challenged.
 
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The Senior Vice President
25.04.7 00:00
 
Whatever you think about his posts, you've gotta admit - he has an amazing vocabulary.
 
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anon
25.04.7 00:00
 
amazing vocabulary? nah, thesaurus.com...bitter MBBB reject?
 
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Bond
25.04.7 00:00
 
Steve,Some fair points, but you've got to admit their xmas do was a belter.
 
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25.04.7 00:00
 
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Steve Aldrin
25.04.7 00:00
 
You did it! Well done! :)I will now leave you to your lovely forum, in peace. Thanks for everything, you have been awesome! Have a nice day!Steve out.
 
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